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Draconus Lofwyr
The Green Cross
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:07:00 -
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i see one more reason the mineral and ship prices will go up as well, because of the current sov system, it encourages churn over fights. big alliance moves into area, flips everything, gets bored and moves elsewhere for more sov flip churn. leaving the current space vacant for another big alliance to flip. so the industrialists can never really get settled in for a long production process.
You want to encourage an inferno? change the sov mechanics so an alliance can not gain or loose massive regions in days, make each system a fight. Hell the old sov days of pos spamming at least had its own built in mechanism of slowing down the front so you had to fight. where a single small alliance could hold a system because it could logistical support the pos's long enough to be a royal pain to the invaders.
Can we start fighting on fronts, instead of TCU's? this will give the industrialists some time to settle in for mining and building without having to evac every month or 2.
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Draconus Lofwyr
The Green Cross
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.10 22:13:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:
Feels futile to post this though, most feedback gets brushed aside and CCP keeps rolling the dice. One wonders if you've heard of Gambler's Ruin? Where is your staff economist? Does he just sit there and say "that will be interesting?" I bet he's learning a lot about what happens when you really screw with an economy.
Please, learn the value of subtlety. (Also applicable to ship balancing, btw.)
he's probably locked in his office twitching at the numbers and trying not to run for the ice hills in panic.
I would love to see CCP take this opportunity to add more named and new drone modules into the game, remove alloys, add some faction and queen spawn items.
rogue queen Drone Link Augmenters anyone?
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Draconus Lofwyr
The Green Cross
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.13 21:03:00 -
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if you want to do something for the carebears, perhaps do something about the abysmal drop rate on the Mining Foreman Mindlink, They are starting to break the 1 bil mark on the market.
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Draconus Lofwyr
The Green Cross
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.16 21:11:00 -
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they really want to make this a carebear based patch, remove ALL loot drops and replace them with limited run bpc's for all named products, no more gun mining period and ALL modules will have to be produced from minerals. this would also make ratting easier as cargo space would not be that much of an issue. Even meta 0 bpc's could drop, and for faction spawns and officer spawns, the drops would be faction bpc's and researched bpc's for non faction loot.
This will encourage a lot more industrialists to go out and have to mine. no more supplying the budget PvP fleets with loot drops. |
Draconus Lofwyr
The Green Cross
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.16 21:23:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:Draconus Lofwyr wrote:they really want to make this a carebear based patch, remove ALL loot drops and replace them with limited run bpc's for all named products, no more gun mining period and ALL modules will have to be produced from minerals. this would also make ratting easier as cargo space would not be that much of an issue. Even meta 0 bpc's could drop, and for faction spawns and officer spawns, the drops would be faction bpc's and researched bpc's for non faction loot.
This will encourage a lot more industrialists to go out and have to mine. no more supplying the budget PvP fleets with loot drops. This is a surprisingly not terrible idea though it would end cheap meta 1-3 items as nobody would build them.
just increase the me/pe on the meta to match the meta level to lower the "cost" of building that should bring back the meta 1-3 items as the meta 4+ items will just be that much rarer. |
Draconus Lofwyr
The Green Cross
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.23 01:45:00 -
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Don Kartel wrote:Its good to see rouge drone alloys removed and Meta 0 drops removed however look at the state of the market now and thats before the patch. What are you going to do to balance that out ?
Demand out strips supply massively and people hate mining for hours on end. mining is the worst thing in the game and pvp'ers are going to suffer becuase ship prices have just doubled in some cases
Something needs to be done to boost mineral supply ingame now to balance this mess out a little Nocxium is 1000 isk p/u when traditionally its was 256 isk. Can you see where you messed up ? Keep in mind this is pre-patch, so whats going to happen post patch.
You spend all that time adding content to encourage pvp in game and you pretty much discourage it in this patch by making everything pvp relatated too expensive. If people can't make enough isk to replace ships then they aren't going to pvp as much and certainly most pvp minded players won't turn to mining instead.
while i'm not saying you are one of them, but am just using your post as an example, its so beautifully ironic listening to all the PvPer tears bitching about "how expensive everything is going to be" at the same time calling the WHAAAmpulance over the idea of hardening the exhumers up in other threads. You know what? HTFU yourselves, the mineral and ship prices are now becoming a result of what you yourselves have bitched about for years "do something about the botters" " Make ganking easier" "miners aren't playing the real game like i think it should be" whaaa, whaaa, whaaa, go get a fracking tissue and STFU!!!!!
Things change, get over it. learn to adapt and quit shitting in your own back yard. Don't be surprised when prices skyrocket after ganking all the industrialists in high sec and they find other sources of income or quit. don't ***** when you wine and start threadnaughts because someone else has the time and patience you don't to do what you don't want to do.
Personally, i like the changes, i would like to see some more changes, a little extra tank to the exhumers to modernize them to 6+ years of combat tech escalation, change all loot drops to bpc's so even the drones can drop something. somethng more to fill out this anemic patch, it just does not have the feel of a full release update like in times past (perhaps opening the door in the CQ, or some sov updates )
but as with all the **** i didn't like, i will adapt and overcome. make my recommendations, but only ***** about the whiners.
We shall see how this patch comes out, and even CCP says they will have eyes on the market and they probably have more changes queued up just in case to deal with an explosion.
we shall see.
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